Knowing Yourself Inside & Outside
Full Transcript:
Questioner: I
have been seeing your videos in YouTube, this is the first time that I am
seeing you live. So, I have a basic questions, which will help everyone here.
Everyone talks about, you know, knowing ourselves and the first step is going
inside and then the way to go inside is meditation and when I try to…
Sadhguru: I
don’t know, please don’t (Laughs)… do… I never said such things. I don’t know
which everyone said those things (Laughter).
Questioner: Okay,
so then how do we go inside?
Vinita Bali: That
is the question (Laughter).
Sadhguru: Inside
what, you are already inside the hall (Laughter)? Inside what?
Questioner: Inside
ourselves.
Sadhguru: Ohh
(Laughs)!
Questioner: Okay,
if that is the truth of the first step of knowing answers for all the
questions, if going inside is the answer, then how do we do that?
Sadhguru: First
of all, you must understand what is inside, okay, and what is outside. If you
do not understand what is inside and outside, then you will go to all the wrong
places. Now what is inside? Your body – accumulated over a period of time, yes
or no? Hello, Maa?
Participants: Yes.
Sadhguru: What
you accumulate can be yours, cannot be you. Is that much clear?
Participants: Yes.
Sadhguru: Whatever
it may be. What you accumulate can be yours, cannot be you. So, this body
(Gestures) is an accumulation. What you call as my mind, the whole content of
the mind is accumulated, depending upon what you are exposed to in your life.
So your body is a heap of food, small or big. Your mind is a heap of impressions,
again small or big. Between these two heaps, where the hell are you? So,
inside, outside – leave these words because when it comes to language, there is
only that much leeway, so within that, maybe different people are trying to use
it in different ways, we don’t know in what context they used. You put
everybody into one bundle and said, “All of you said this.” I don’t know who
these all people are. Different people employed different methods around them,
looking at the people around them, what was best suitable for the people around
them, accordingly they would have worked most probably. If they are genuine,
they would have worked with the people around them, not with concepts from
somewhere. What… Looking at an individual person, you will do something, what
works for that person. What you do with this person (Gestures) may not work for
another person, you’ll have to do something else with that person but you are
talking about a generic inward, outward. So, first determine what is inward,
outward. Everything is outward right now. The world is outside, body is also
external material, ev… all the material in the mind also is external so what is
this inward you are talking about? Then you will immediately say atma,
paramatma, soul, this one. Now you are going into belief system. You don’t
know! You know you have a body, yes? Hello?
Participants:
Yes.
Sadhguru: Please
check your neighbors (Laughter). You know you have a body, you believe you have
a mind (Laughter). But to some extent, you know but rest is belief. Yes or no?
Vinita Bali: Yes.
Sadhguru: I’m not questioning whether it’s true or false, let’s
not go there at all, but it’s belief, it’s not yet in your experience. If you
talk about something, which is not yet in your experience, to put it bluntly
you’re just a bloody liar, that’s what it means. But because lies are holy,
lies are written in scriptures, lies are repeated by all kinds of people who
dressed in different ways, which are supposed be holy though ridiculous.
Because of this, you are not supposed to question these words. Anywhere you go,
first thing is people say, “Sadhguru, what about the soul?” I ask them, “Which
sole, right or left” (Laughter/Applause)? So, let’s not te… talk about
something that is not in your experience. Right now, your body is in your
experience to some extent, your mind is in your experience to some extent, rest
you don’t know but we can infer. If I have to ca…ca…accumulate this much
(Gestures) body, if I have to accumulate this much (Gestures) mind, something
more fundamental must be there, yes? Something more fundamental must be there,
we don’t know what the hell it is. For now, we will call it “you.” How you will
go into yourself, I’m asking (Laughter)? You can go into this hall, you can go
out of this hall? How will you go into yourself, I’m asking? Tch, saying let’s
leave this, this is not the way. You do this way. What is not you, all those
things you keep it aside. Before today… if you… before you go to bed,
everything that’s not you, keep it aside. They may be precious to you. You
think about it, your house, is it you? “Oh! My house” (Gestures) (Laughter).
All right, you have lots of passion about it but all right, keep it aside. Your
husband, is it you? No, that’s easy, “He is not me” (Laughter/Applause). My
children are… is the… are they me? Oh, little difficulty, but no (Laughter),
tch, they are not me. They’re beginning to tell you – if they’re twelve,
they’ve already told you (Laughter). So, the clothes that you wear, is that
you? No. The body that you wear, is that you? No. All these thoughts and
emotion, is this you? No. Everything that’s not you, keep it in one heap, not
physically, just do this mentally. Keep everything aside, let me see. Every
day, you practice this. One day, when you successfully keep everything aside
that you are not, what you are will be there (Applause). We have too many ideas
about things that we’ve not seen, this is a big problem. Shankaran Pillai went
to Britannia (Laughter/Applause). Can I…?
Vinita Bali: You
love the story, yes.
Sadhguru: Shankaran
Pillai went to Britannia Industries (Laughter) to find a job, to find a job.
So, they were looking for a really smart, farseeing sales manager. So they
asked him one question, “Which is further (farther?), Mumbai or moon?”
Shankaran Pillai thought, he said, “Mumbai.” They said, “What? Mumbai is
further than the moon?” He said, “Yes.” “How?” “Well, I can see the moon, I
can’t see Mumbai” (Laughter and Applause). So what I am saying is – if you go
by your present perception, you’ll get all the wrong conclusions. So don’t be
in a rush to make conclusions. Let’s pay little more attention. You are a
worthwhile life, which deserves some attention, isn’t it? Don’t seek other
people’s attention (Laughter). Your own attention, doesn’t this life (Referring
to oneself) deserve attention? Pay attention to this (Referring to oneself).
Enough attention, everything will be clear. Everything about you, you’re asking
me. If I tell you, what do you have? You have some more words. Tch, some more
words you have, that will not get you anywhere near the truth. One more word or
ten more words doesn’t get you any closer to reality, just you’ll have more
things to say to somebody else. This kind of hearsay is spreading in the world.
Everybody knows where god is, who his wife is, how many children he has, when
is his birthday, his address. In every bhajan, people are singing his address,
where he is and how to get him but they don’t know a damn thing about
themselves. This kind of, what to say, a very knowledgeable ignorance is
dangerous (Laughter), you know? If you do not know, it’s not a problem. If I
see, “I do not know,” the possibility of knowing is always there, isn’t it? If
I do not know and I think I know, then I’ve destroyed all possibilities. So, we
have arrived at many things, we know… In every culture they know what is the
nature of god, where he resides, how the ambience is there and the works, you
know? Tch, you… Everybody knows the geography of the heaven, isn’t it? Don’t
you? but you don’t know a damn thing about yourself. It’s time, it’s time we
paid attention because everything you know, you know it only the way it’s
projected in the firmament of your mind. You don’t know anything any other way.
Yes or no?
Participants: Yes.
Sadhguru: So,
what you need to fix is – you are seeing everything in a mirror of your mind
and the mirror is wonky. First fix it, first thing is to make it stable, flat,
proper plain mirror, so that you see everything the way it is. Does the plain
mirror show you everything the way it is? Everything reverse, you know? Then
you’ll have to flip it, that’ll take much more skill, most people can’t flip a
dosa (Laughter). Now to f… flip the whole universe, the whole life that is
reflecting in your mind, to flip it over without shattering it into pieces will
take much more. But the first thing is to level out the mirror so that it shows
you everything the way it is, not some other way. Right now, everything is seen
depending upon how you are identified with something. Every identity has
distorted the mirror of your mind and it shows you things in completely
different way than the way it is. First thing is stop talking about things that
you do not know – no soul, no atman, no paramatman, no god, no divine, no
heaven – talk about something that you know and then the longing to take the
next step will become strong. Otherwise, when you know the geography of the
heaven, what is the need to pay attention to anything?
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